Changelog Interviews – Episode #680

Exploring with agents

with Amelia Wattenberger

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Today on the show I’m talking with Amelia Wattenberger — designer, data-viz veteran, ex-GitHub Next, and now designing Intent at Augment Code. What if the last 30% of any software project is about to become the hardest part you’ve ever done? That’s the argument Amelia is making today. We discuss the identity crisis developers are having as agents take over the keyboard, the epic redesign of developer tooling in this agent-first world, the arc from autocomplete to chat to CLI back to UI, why Intent treats a workspace as their core primitive not a chat thread, the tradeoffs between one-worktree-per-agent vs. one-worktree-per-task, and why she thinks prototyping just got easier but finishing got harder.

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Chapters

1 00:00 Welcome to The Changelog 01:50
2 01:50 Sponsor: WorkOS 02:59
3 04:50 Start the show! 02:22
4 07:11 Copilot and GitHub Next 07:53
5 15:04 70/30 flip and software hoarders 05:44
6 20:48 Open source in the agent age 05:00
7 25:48 Agent Flow and personal software 04:29
8 30:17 Sponsor: RWX 02:42
9 33:00 Gauntlet side quest 02:32
10 35:31 Intent and workspaces before PRs 03:17
11 38:48 Intent and the workspace primitive 03:57
12 42:45 One worktree per task 04:04
13 46:49 Coordinator, implementer, verifier 05:53
14 52:42 Your work is too important to do the work 02:35
15 55:18 Trust the model 05:53
16 1:01:11 Sponsor: NordLayer 01:51
17 1:03:02 The enhance-prompt dance 04:35
18 1:07:36 Developer identity crisis 06:30
19 1:14:06 AI as tool: restraint and what not to build 05:50
20 1:19:56 Reinventing primitives and zoomable maps 06:54
21 1:26:50 Language choices and delivery 04:28
22 1:31:17 Getting started with Intent and where to find Amelia 01:46
23 1:33:03 Wrapping up 01:27
24 1:34:31 Closing thoughts and stuff 02:20

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